Posted on: December 7, 2010 5:15 pm
Sure he built winners but I think a lot of people overlook the fact that when he leaves a team they collapse because the team got old and Gillick had gutted the farm system to build the major league club by trading prospects and giving up draft picks for signing free agents. This happened with the Blue Jays, it happened with the Mariners, and it will certainly happen to the Phillies as their veterans age and I think you saw the first signs of that last year. Think about the Jays first, who was drafted or acquired to replace Joe Carter or Roberto Alomar, David Cone or Jack Morris? Then look at the Mariners, who was there to replace Edgar Martinez, Alex Rodriguez, Dan Wilson, Joey Cora, John Olerud, Jay Buhner, and Jamie Moyer? Now look at the Phillies, who is going to replace Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, Roy Halladay, and you could already see the affect of losing Brett Myers to some extent last year. You could say the Phillies are exactly like the Mariners were when they were winning but they are aging now and they don't have any youth sitting on that bench learning and they have traded away the farm to acquire players like Halladay and Oswalt and now have lost Werth which will hurt them more than anybody realizes at the moment. Utley is hurt all the time now and Ryan Howard appears to be losing some bat speed and is prone to slumps and high strikeout streaks. I think Gillick was great at taking teams with deep farms systems and decent major league clubs and using that to his advantage. You'd have to ask those fan bases if the winning for 4 years was worth the future. I'm sure in the Blue Jays and Phillies cases it is but in the Mariners case they did not win a world series and are now in such a deep hole the end isn't in site so I'd say it wasn't worth it for them. I personally think Pete Gillick is highly overrated.
Posted on: November 12, 2010 3:26 pm
It started with Ken Griffey Jr. retiring, they traded an ace, they fired their manager, and then the Mariners lost 101 games but through all of that we still had Dave Niehaus which was always a bright spot during down years. And now the voice is silent after all these years of greatness. I remember turning on the radio when I was a kid to listen to the games and his voice always had me in a zone. From Rich Amaral and "grand salami time" to "that ball will flyyyyyy away" it will all be missed because "MY, OH MY" was he the best!
Posted on: September 16, 2010 5:01 pm
Edited on: September 23, 2010 5:03 pm
This is something I have thought about since the Mariners lost Alex Rodriguez to the Rangers. The Mariners drafted him, developed him, and he became a star there and then when his contract was up he bolted. I propose the institute a franchise tag in MLB like they have in the NFL.
They already award draft picks if that player is a Type A free agent but the current team has no way to prevent the defection of their best asset and who's to say draft picks will pan out? I would propose they be allowed to put a franchise tag on the player and then work out a trade with the current team to obtain the rights to work out a deal with that player. If you want to franchise the player you average the top 5 players at his position and add 5%, if you franchise him the next year you add 10%. That gives the current team at least 2 years to work out a deal or trade and allows them to get decent return (major league talent) if they do lose that player.
Teams like the Yankees should not be allowed to use other MLB teams like the Mariners as farm systems since they haven't really had one until recently. At least the current team can have some options, if they don't want to pay the price then they can simply let the player walk and get the draft picks in return but if they really covet that player and he is the cornerstone of their franchise then they don't end up like the Cleveland Cavaliers did when LeBron James left them.
I think it's time to even the playing field if they aren't going to have a salary cap. The Twins were afraid they were going to lose Joe Mauer and if he had wanted to explore his options there is nothing they could have done about it. It needs to stop and it needs to happen soon. Just my humble opinion of course.